YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EUROBIG
07-11-2016Since one year, some small changes in our challenge for reaching the final Graal and become a finisher, about the last zone and the 60 special numbers of zone+ gave many discussions between members during the meetings and through mails. We understand that if it's clear for us and improved due to our history, it's not so clear for everybody. Consequence, we answer to your questions more precisely by clicking on "read more"
Why do we have included Eurobig ?
We have included the Eurobig challenge according to the way how we built the superlist 1000 in the 90's with the Iron wall between the western and eastern countries and no good maps about the eastern countries. Now the iron wall is out, the eastern countries come largely in the professional races (the last 3 worldchampions come from those eastern countries). 5 years ago, a debate in the forum, very strong, requested a better balance between the mountains in the West and mountains in the East. We decided to create the national challenges and the first ones in those eastern countries and to open a challenge that can give more good balance according to the reality of the field (mountaineous areas in Europe).
Why do we have agreeded Mix between Euro and Superbig ?
Some very good and high ranked members (Alain, Kevin) chose the Eurobig instead of the Superbig with already plenty of bigs claimed outside Europe. Our philosophy since the beginning was never to delete a claim claimed for one member. That's the reason why you find some strange names in the claims of the pionneers linked to old changes of rules or of lists. The best was to be extremely strict for the superbig (not changed ) and to be more large in our rules for the eurobigs (mix authorized following the rules of the old zone 12 – ordinogramm).
How to become a superbig finisher ?
The member hasn't to be busy with the new 60 bigs in the zone+ « eastern countries ». He must follow the ordinogramm and send his/her claims to zone+ manager for agreement.
How to become an eurobig finisher ?
The member can claim the 60 numbers with a choice between the 60 eastern new bigs and the claims outside Europe following the rules of the ordinogramm and zone+manager's agreement.
Examples :
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You have no out of Europe claims.
- You claim the 60 numbers out of Europe (superbig)
- You claim the 60 numbers with the 60 new ones in zone+ East Europe (eurobig)
- You claim a mix between them (eurobig)
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You have already some claims in those 60 numbers and you want to claim for being an Eurobig finisher
a) You already have claims outside Europe and you want to add inside the new 60 in zone+ Put the right numbers according to the continent (the numbers for Africa for example if you have african claims already) and add the blank numbers by the claims with the names of the bigs inside the zone+
b) You already have claims in the 60 new ones in zone+ and you have the happiness to travel outside Europe. Use the blank numbers inside the numbers reserved to the continent where are going to claim some climbs in this continent but be careful the new claims must follow the ordinogramm (difference of level > 5000m totally, and so on,...)
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You have already claims in those 60 numbers with european eastern claims in zone+ and you want know to try the superbig. You have to replace one by one the claims in those numbers by claims outside of Europe following the ordinogramm until you'll have all the 60 numbers outside Europe.
How to claim in ex-USSR ?
For the superbig, it's simple do it like before following the ordinogramm.
For the eurobig, we suggest 10 fixed names woth of value. You can claim them or you can claim few of those 10 ones with other ones in ex-USSR following the ordinogramm.
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